Title: Parliament Bill 2010
Carl Miller - January 14, 2010 06:33 PM (GMT)
Under this act:
(a) The term of government shall be extended to three months.
(B) The franchise shall be extended to all persons over the age of 16 who are not imprisoned felons or judged legally insane.
(c1) There shall be elections amongst Members of Parliament to appoint a Serjeant-at-Arms and Leader of the House of Commons at the beginning of each term.
(c2) Article IVŠ of the Constitution shall be amended as follows:
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Article IV: The Parliament of Ostentia c. A Speaker of the House of Commons shall be elected from the membership of the House of Commons at the start of each term to oversee parliamentary procedure. |
HRH King Zog II - January 14, 2010 07:31 PM (GMT)
Why do convicted felons get disenfranchised? That not going to help them integrate into society is it?
Cieran - January 14, 2010 08:30 PM (GMT)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Carl Miller - January 14, 2010 08:40 PM (GMT)
@Zog Convicted felons can't vote in the UK.
@Cieran ?
Pokemaniac John - January 14, 2010 09:13 PM (GMT)
All well and dandy but for a couple of things: it says elections will be held for the position of speaker. Fine in principal, but the positions of speaker and admin are necessarily linked and the appointment of a new speaker can only be executed by the predecessor. Also, what's a serjeant, and does it exist? The latter half of that also goes for the leader.
Carl Miller - January 14, 2010 09:15 PM (GMT)
The Serjeant-at-Arms is in charge of security in the Commons, and the Leader of the Commons is in charge of setting up committee meetings and the such: basically all the boring stuff that the Speaker cba doing, but it still pays well :P.
HRH King Zog II - January 14, 2010 10:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Carl Miller @ Jan 14 2010, 09:40 PM) |
@Zog Convicted felons can't vote in the UK. |
No, only people currently in prison can't vote. Once you're let out you can vote again. Get it right.
miniyoda008 - January 14, 2010 10:13 PM (GMT)
Cieran - January 14, 2010 10:31 PM (GMT)
Okay, seriously though, this bill actually would need to amend the constitution to be valid. The Speaker is, and I quote (Article IV.c) "appointed from the membership of the House of Commons to oversee parliamentary procedure."
The key-word here being appointed. If you're changing that to "elected", that makes it a constitutional change. Thus it needs a 2/3rds majority.
Thus you have about as much chance of this bill passing as of HRH King Zog II turning into a chicken during mid-speech...
Lord Davies - January 14, 2010 10:31 PM (GMT)
Elections for speaker are stupid, as we've been told before once you've been speaker you know to much, and really cant take such an active role in politicts anymore, having multiple speakers in such a short time frame would just ruin CC0's dastardly plans the simulation
plqx - January 14, 2010 10:42 PM (GMT)
There are quite a few people who have been speaker for short periods of time - I really don't think that having an elected speaker would be a PROBLEM. However there is no point and as Cieran says it would require a change to the constitution and thus a 2/3 majority to pass.
Lord Wallace Buttersworth - January 14, 2010 11:16 PM (GMT)
Carl Miller - January 15, 2010 04:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cieran @ Jan 14 2010, 05:31 PM) |
Okay, seriously though, this bill actually would need to amend the constitution to be valid. The Speaker is, and I quote (Article IV.c) "appointed from the membership of the House of Commons to oversee parliamentary procedure."
The key-word here being appointed. If you're changing that to "elected", that makes it a constitutional change. Thus it needs a 2/3rds majority.
Thus you have about as much chance of this bill passing as of HRH King Zog II turning into a chicken during mid-speech... |
In an election, the constituents vote to appoint someone to a post.
In these elections, MPs would vote on which of them to appoint as Speaker.
e: Fixed. (b) now says "imprisoned felons" and © now says "There shall be elections amongst Members of Parliament to appoint..."
Cieran - January 15, 2010 08:08 PM (GMT)
No, appointment implies no election. This law requires constitutional change...
Carl Miller - January 15, 2010 09:10 PM (GMT)
Cieran - January 15, 2010 09:42 PM (GMT)
Ah good. This bill now has even less chance of passing ^_^...